Game Of Thrones – Why The Starks Don’t Follow The Old Gods

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Published on November 7, 2016

Game Of Thrones Why The Starks Don’t Follow The Old Gods and the true history of Westeros. We look into the crypts and why the stark king separated themselves for the Old Gods traditions.

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Game of Thrones is an American fantasy drama television series created by showrunners David Benioff and D. B. Weiss. It is an adaptation of A Song of Ice and Fire, George R. R. Martin’s series of fantasy novels, the first of which is titled A Game of Thrones. It is filmed in a Belfast studio and on location elsewhere in Croatia, Iceland, Malta, Morocco, Northern Ireland, Spain, Scotland, and the United States, and premiered on HBO in the United States on April 17, 2011. The series has been renewed for a sixth season, which will premiere on April 24, 2016

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  1. you're confusing the first men with the men from essos that invaded later and brought the faith of the 7

  2. kloiten

    There's something to remember about the history of peoples in Westeros. Everybody on the continent, except for the orphans of the Greenblood, speak Common, the language of the Andals, even in the north, where Andal culture influenced that of the First Men the least. Common is even spoken beyond the Wall. This points to massive Andal influence on every culture, which presumably includes influence onto religious practices.
    The Starks, who trace their lineage back to Brandon the Builder, as one of the most prominent ruling houses on Westeros, were always going to be influenced by the Andals, even though the north was never conquered by the invaders (indeed, the first real conquest of the north was at the hands of Aegon the Conqueror). This would happen over millenia as the two ethnic groups coexisted with each other, influencing each other through peaceful means such as marriage, diplomacy, and cooperation, and sometimes through less peaceful means.
    So it's not entirely out of the question that the Starks would adopt the Andal custom of burying the distinguished dead in a crypt, as we see done in the Sept of Baelor. After all, even the First Men among themselves have different customs for the burial of the dead: the Boltons bury their dead beneath the Dreadfort, the Blackwoods beneath weirwoods (without barrows), and the ironborn, who are ethnically First Men, follow a completely different religion to the north and let their dead float out onto the sea as part of the ironborn connection to it and the Drowned God.
    I honestly think it's a case of Occam's razor here. It seems a lot more likely that the traditions of the north evolved over the millenia of contact with the Andals than the Starks being aware of and actively against a plan masterminded by the Children of the Forest to have the Westerosi version of the NSA. It wouldn't make sense for them to still swear oaths in front of weirwoods and treat them like holy things if they are trying to prevent assimilation. The mystery in the crypts that seems to call the Stark children back to them is more likely something to do with R+L=J, some more green magic stuff, and the whole "there must always be a Stark in Winterfell" blood connection thing.

  3. The crypts are supposed to be so long and twisting and confusing there are supposedly places where no human being has been for hundreds of years. My question is who the hell is lighting all those candles? If only Starks are supposed to be down there, every time we see there are candles lit as far as the eye can see. I would think if it was someones job to keep the place lit by the time he lit the last candle he would have to walk back to the first one and start over. It would be a never ending job.

  4. So you're saying the Starks knew about being assimilated into the hive mind but let all their people do it?

  5. One thing i'd like to point out is that there was probably quite a lot of forest at that time.

  6. The first men didn't cut down the weir woods

  7. dude you didnt explain sh**. You made the title only as a bait

  8. What role do the chickens seem to hold in this show. I've noticed a lot of chickens with strange expressions on their faces!!

  9. This makes no sense because Bran can still see the memories of his ancestors who are buried on the crips

  10. Backwards! The Starks are one of the few houses that DO uphold the beliefs in the old gods. It is the other houses of the south mainly abandoning this for the "light of the seven."

  11. Didn't explain anything but just said the crypts are amazing architecture. man these people who think they know a lot about GoT need to stop. just shut the fuck up and read or watch.

  12. To the guy making this video: ONLY THE BOOKS ARE CANON, you cannot really use the show and the books together because they don't exist in the same universe.

  13. Some really compelling points. I would venture that maybe thinking about the tower shapes is a little too deep. Martin has acknowledged that he confuses details at times, so that could be a simple oversight on his part. But the potential conflict of crypt burial is almost certainly significant. It could also be less combative and more that they want to keep their individuality. Just like the Targaryens don't see themselves as subject to all the same religious rules as commoners, it's possible they do it because they intend to stay kings in death(rather than joining the weir woods).

  14. u should open by saying "recently i've been watching preston"
    i hate all the new got channels u guys got nothing original just copy paste

  15. I think crips and bloods hate each other.

  16. Could you do a video on bran and his importance in the rest of the series?

  17. Planken

    I think the crypts are rocking

  18. Sweet Jesus ur thinking of the andels the first men were followers of the old gods. have u not seen the first episode when cat told ned jon arryn died? ends clearly a follower of the old gods. not to mention jon took his vows at the weirwood. ur thinking of the andals

  19. K Matsu

    If you start on the assumption that GRR bases everything in his books on some aspect of history, then the Children would be the Pictish race that inhabited the British isles before the Celts (first men) arrived. The Picts are a mystery race that nobody can quite figure out. The mainstream theory nowadays is that they descended from a lineage that was once far more widespread on the western coast of Europe but now is only found in remnants in places like Andorra and northern Scotland. When Celtic people first started moving into Britain, they considered the Picts to be fierce and addicted to war, very hard to kill, and somehow associated with ice and the far north (some even think they are related to the Eskimo/Inuit people).

    Again, this theory hinges on the idea that GRR derived the Children from Picts, but if this theory is followed to its logical conclusion, then the Children must be connected to the White Walkers, and their magic is an underlying force that guides the White Walkers. The Children were originally enemies to the First Men, and the White Walkers may now be a "military arm" trying to take revenge on behalf of the Children. Supporting this theory is the fact that White Walkers do not attack the Children directly (eg. they dont follow Bran into the hill below the weirwood tree), and they seem to respect the trees.

    One possibility that this line of reasoning opens up is the idea that the deep forests and weirwood trees can serve as a sort of "Fifth Column" established in preparation for the day when the White Walkers start to invade from the North, where they can form the base for an uprising against the men.

  20. nah man im not for the cripz                                                                                                            i prefer the bloods

  21. Is it just me or is the guy really difficult to understand? It's like he's mumbling, but it's also his accent :(.

  22. perhaps the starks are simply sworn to follow both the old gods and the new, one by the children the other by whoever controlled the iron throne at any point in time, as they would want to impose their religion on their subjects aswell

    didn't they at some point swear their allegiance to someone in front of both the old gods and the new? indicating they follow both.

    or am i just imagining things now

  23. Really? Cause last time I checked the Starks were the only ones who followed the old gods

  24. where is it stated that it is against the rules of the Old Gods to bury your dead. This is a custom that all people follow in westeros, the reason why some are deeper than others are because of their status whilst they were alive and their families continued status. The reason for the Starks having a big area for the dead is because the person who initially made it whether that be Brandon the Builder or some other Stark wanted their line to carry over many generations and wanted all the offspring of their line to be put in one place not to thwart the 'Hive Mind'. However I believe that this was a very good video and theory however the inconsistencies that this person speaks about are actually not inconsistent and rather on the contrary if all sources were looked at.

  25. Wouldn't it be cool if the nights king brought the dead Starks back from dead.

  26. correct me if I'm wrong, but it is spelled out in the books that any human buried in the earth is automatically assimilated into the Weirwood memory network? I thought that it was just what the Weirwoods "saw" with their carved eyes that was stored in their "hive mind". What's the book evidence that suggests that any human buried in the earth would be absorbed into the collective Old God consciousness? And why would being buried in the Winterfell crypts, instead of in the open ground, prevent this from happening? I just don't get this theory…

  27. Where do you get the 'hive mind' idea from? That's not canon, is it?

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